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What is asked for is what Jesus would wish. He told Peter to "FEED my lambs, FEED my sheep" not "Rule my lambs, govern my sheep".

However, as we all wish for the ideals of Vatican 2, we must always remember that whatever structure the Church may have in our time, we HAVE to be loving servants of Jesus in communion with the Trinity within ourselves.


Added: October 14, 2012
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I was taught by Dominican nuns,1945-55, about "common teaching and infallibility". I was a seminarian for 8 years and taught World Religions for 33 years. My understanding of "common teaching": 1. Papal infallibility may not overule what was taught and held by the church from the beginning. So the pope avoids any disagreement with ORTHODOX eastern dogma since it has been held from the beginning and in dogma is still Catholic. 2. Papal infallibility cannot contradict what is held in common by the whole church today e,g. 99% of Catholic women practice birth control so this suggests the curia is in doubt too and therefore no infallible teaching" has come forth on this challenge from the majority of Catholics. 3. a bishop is supreme in his diosese. 4. It follows that far right doctrines , new to the church , coming only from the curia are not church teaching. One bishop speuing hate for gay Catholics is not settled church teaching. Bishops are not infallible; nor do they = common teaching. I'm not even up to Vatican II yet, because my pre-Vatican II Catholic Baltimore Cathechism learning is so far left of the Roman curia today. They do not equal church teaching. But where is the voice of the rest of us? Where do we ever hear of "common teaching" , the voice of the whole church. The curia has managed to erase everything before Vatican II as well. Archbishop Mitty, a conservative Catholic, started the missiom band in 1958 to reach out to mexican Catholics. this movement lasted until 2011 when the bishop of Oakland shut down the Hispanic ministry of St. joseph The Worker parish and was rewared by being made archbishop of San Francisco and then turned away the Anglican bishop from his installation ceremony. This does not resemble even the conservative Catholic church I grew up in. October 12, 2012

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Encouraging as this document is, the critical issues of the day are likely to overtake the efforts to reform the internal structures of this massively ossified institution. The tsunami of human misery from climate change and the resulting food and water shortages; the ever pervasive sin of war, as well as the massive refugee populations arising from it all, over the next 50 to 75 years, makes the sins of these tired old men, of the Roman Catholic Corporation, - as well as those of their "branch offices" - irrelevant.

Inspired by the Holy Spirit, dear and saintly Pope John XXIII did his best to prepare the church for what is coming in the world, but greed and lack of faith has stalled those efforts. The Holy Spirit continues working in a million different ways, in a million different communities re-creating the "church" in the hearts and minds and lives of people, and it has little to do with the Corporation. As was done with the Encyclical Humanae Vitae, people have not waited for these old men to change their ways or hearts. Instead, they are following their conscience and are now caught up in the Spirit of God and living out the gospel. The institution, ever concerned about numbers of things gained and the total amounts in revenues, has become irrelevant.

As was taught to me many years ago, we are not about the work of saving the institution, but rather proclaiming the gospel of Jesus Christ, and "sometimes, when necessary, even with words" as St. Francis of Assisi has said. And so ever more needed today, is a community of faith that embraces the many religions of the world, respecting their traditions and beliefs and allowing for a diversity of forms of worship, but working together as one to address our common challenges; religion becoming something that unites rather than divides. Something formed by people of various faiths at the grassroots, and out of the hands of the multi-faith, institutional leaders who cannot learn to trust and let go of fear. I think this is where the Spirit is leading us today as people of faith.


Added: October 12, 2012
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Our Future Church will not need a Pope or Rome to direct the people of God. God has gifted the people of the human race to know how and when to worship Him/Her. We have an Evolutionary God who keeps moving creation forward and upward, and we are all moved by that Spirit sooner or later. It looks like the Second Coming is just around the corner. Hang on to your ...

Added: October 12, 2012
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This a most amazing declaration! I'm glad I'm still alive to see it. I completely agree with these wise men. We will lose so many more people, if we continue with such a conservative (if not fascist) church.

I have 3 children who only go to mass if they have a modern, activist priest they want to support. My grandchildren are also following their parents.

For my generation the church must offer more than just a constant repetition of the same thing, as if we were zombies. The soliciting of Church of England ex-priests is embarrasing (and I'm not degrading that church! far from it!). There are other ways if the Vatican only asks us, the congregations.

My prayers will be directed to this group of courageous people. Cardinal Martini, when he came to Australia, had the churches full to burst with enthusiasm and a desire to hear.... something wonderful! And he did it.

I want to hear him again!
God Bless!

Nathalie


Added: October 11, 2012
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I was very impressed with your website and its content. It provided me a "shot" of HOPE.I sent it to a list serve of 300 former seminarians and encouraged them to sign the petition.
I recently posted a blog on my website, entitled "Authority and Loyal Dissent". I also published a book, "From Blind Obedience to a Responsible Faith".
So, I think we are "on the same page". I hope I don't come across as a huckster, I'm not selling anything on my website. If you want more information about me, I'd be happy to send the URL for my website.

Original blessings, Don Fausel


Added: October 11, 2012
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I want to see a wider provision of Mass in the Extraordinary Form together with a much more thorough catechesis for the faitful in the traditional doctrines of the Church. I want to see the male-only priesthood retained and retention of the disciplinary rule in relation to an unmarried priesthood. I want to see Catholics becoming more fervent in their Catholicism and more rigorous in their practice of the faith. I want to see those who dissent from the Magisterium coming to an appreciation of their errors and returning to Christ. If such persons, in spite of all efforts to dissuade them to the contrary, insist on persevering in these errors I would like to see them acting in a manner that is logically coherent by admitting that they are no longer in communion with Rome and finding an alternative ecclesial community to join which would suit their consciences. AMDG in omnibus.

Added: October 10, 2012
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My vision of the church includes equality between men and women, as well as, inclusiveness among all who are of good faith.

I would see authority turned from a pyramid structure to one where the top of the pyramid serves and listens to all starting at the broad base and on in levels to the top.
In effect this is a reverse pyramid from the current hierarchy.


Added: October 9, 2012
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I believe this Declaration is very timely and needed. There is much that needs to be changed in how the Church functions! May many read the pages on this website.
I dream of a Church in which women will be fully involved in all the ministries: as deacons, priests and bishops. I dream of a world-wide community in which women will be able to contribute their specific talents, especially at Councils and Synods where the voice of women has been silent. They will now be free to speak out in our updated and renewed future Church by fully participating in meaningful decision making on all levels, and by serving people in all ministries with their special individual gifts.
The Spirit is moving! The door will open!!
Cecilia


Added: October 7, 2012
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